Posts by Nathan Natas

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Atheist philosopher Philip Goff becomes a Christian

by slimboyfat in

philip goff, professor of philosophy at durham university, in the past few weeks has said that he has become a christian of a fairly liberal and perhaps somewhat heretical variety.

it’s been a long journey from staunch atheism in his teens, to questioning the basis of his atheism and a purely materialist conception of reality as a professor of philosophy specialising in consciousness, to now considering himself a christian.

he says it’s the result of coming to terms with the fact that atheists and theists both have good arguments and looking for a middle ground that accommodates the best arguments of both.

Nathan Natas

Here's what I think:

If he's the guy in the photo above, he is past the bloom og youthful manly vigor.

He's balding. What other personal tragedies has he recently experienced?

Weak men look for crutches when faced with adversity. A cross makes a fair crutch, even if it has some dude nailed to it.

I'm not influenced by weaklings. I'm 75 and have a big part of The Catalog Of Human Ills on my plate, but what you won't find on my plate is a piece of unleavened bread and a nice Chianti.

Rejoice, weak Xtians! Soon enough I'll be dead. So will you.

"Death comes UNEXPECTEDLY" -Rev. Paul Ford

https://youtu.be/XpUBKw6i538

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PROCLAMATORE CONSAPEVOLE

by wantingtruth in

proclamatore consapevole.

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Nathan Natas

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Vice President Kamala Harris…your thoughts??

by minimus in

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good pick?

bad pick?

helpful to president biden?

Nathan Natas

"Commie-la" "Mamala"

Gives the USA trauma-la

Spewing word salad at the drop of a hat

if she wins the POTUS, we'll fry in our fat.

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Cuban Underwater City: update

by Nathan Natas in

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link: http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/?id=2039.

will we ever learn about cuban underwater city?.

one reason we're not getting more information about what looks like a cuban underwater city is that for paul weinzweig and his wife paulina zelitsky of advanced digital communications (adc), exploring it is only a sidelinethe company has been hired to hunt for shipwrecks filled with gold and jewels, and to find oil and natural gas reserves.

Nathan Natas

Sheesh! Twenty two years ago?

To be brief, I believe this merits further investigation if and when possible, but this isn't "Atlantis."

If you want Atlantis, see the Azores Islands.

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Once again, ATLANTIS may have been found

by Nathan Natas in

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3766863.stm

satellite images 'show atlantis'

by paul rincon .

Nathan Natas

Gosh, I posted that 20 years ago!

While it may be for sure that SOMETHING was there off the coast of Spain, I now believe that the civilization we call "Atlantis" absolutely DID EXIST, that it was located in the Atlantic Ocean where the Azores remain today, and that it may have been a victim of what we call the "Younger Dryas Impact Theory."

I'd let you know what I think 20 years from now, but I'll be dead by then. We all will die someday.

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Ages of each user here?

by ukpimo in

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i'm interested to know the age demographics here.

it must be significantly different to other exjw forums.

it would be a damning report for watchtower if most of us appear to have left for decades.. you don't have to mention your exact age, you could always say "in my 50s".. i am in my 70s.

Nathan Natas

I'll be 75 in a couple of weeks.

Originally from New York City. I left in the mid-1970s when I learned that there was a SERIAL PEDOPHILE in the Middle Village congregation in Queens. The elders covered up the scandal and allowed the pedophile to teach from the platform, lead the congregation in prayer, etc. I learned that years later this POS began partaking at the Memorial! When I learned of the cover-up I realized that there was no righteousness in The Watchtower.

So I've been OUT for about 50 years... best life EVER! I've been here for 23 years so far...

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Who Was The Biggest Jackass Circuit Overseer You Ever Met?

by Sea Breeze in

there was on older white-haired circuit overseer in houston around 1989 or 1990. last name started with a w i think.... not sure though.

even the most brain-dead robotic elders told me he was offensive.

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Nathan Natas

I have to nominate Stanley F'in Weigel for this honor. He served in NYC during the 60s-7-s (time approximate). I think my friend ShirleyW will remember him. Shirley and I didn't know each other back then, but I met her on Six Screens and from her comments realized we were contemporaries.

Weigel was a really puffed-up piece of work, full of himself and eager to publicly embarass ANY member of the congregation for any minor reason. Being a total P.O.S., he floated toward the top of the Watchtower cistern, becoming something like City Servant last I heard. By now I'm sure he's dead, and millions are grateful.

On the opposite side of the spectrum we have Paul Haviland, who seemed to be a very good man.

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Former Lancaster, PA Elder convicted of child sexual abuse of multiple victims .......

by WingCommander in

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another creepy pervert elder convicted of multiple counts of child sexual abuse in pennsylvania.

this guy moved from puerto rico to lancaster, pa in the 1990's, worked his way up thru to being an elder, and then used his position to babysit families with children and abuse them.

he then denied everything, but when some victims went to the police, he fled back to pr, where us marshall's eventually caught up to him and arrested him.

Nathan Natas

The RANGE???

You mean you have an outdoor stove that you have to travel to get to???

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Crisis of Conscience

by Freeatlast2024 in

this is my first time posting to this forum.

let me start by saying i was born and raised as a jehovah’s witness.

i’m thankful that i was raised this way, because i feel it protected me in some ways, especially with regard to moral issues.

Nathan Natas

Yes, Don Cameron's book is excellent.

"COAC" gave me the idea to launch my own "replica reprint" career.

Over at Six Screens right now (May 2024), Rick is giving away a few copies of "Captives Of A Concept".

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Crisis of Conscience

by Freeatlast2024 in

this is my first time posting to this forum.

let me start by saying i was born and raised as a jehovah’s witness.

i’m thankful that i was raised this way, because i feel it protected me in some ways, especially with regard to moral issues.

Nathan Natas

WELCOME FreeAtLast2024! "Making shiy up" is what religion is all about.

Ray's book was a magnificent act of contrition on his part, and it helped many people see what he finally understood.

"But BEWARE, beloved ones!"

It is appropriate to be grateful for the gift he gave, but don't join The Ray Franz Fan Club.

I left the JWs before Ray did, and before he himself left, Ray would probably disfellowship me for discovering in the early 1970s that The WTB&TS (as represented by the elders of the Middle Village Congregation, Queens, NYC) protected pedophiles. This audacious pedophile was unpunished and rose in that congregation and started partaking during the Memorial! Ray Franz has been criticized for claiming ignorance of The Society;s pedophile problem, even AFTER he wrote CoC.

Point is, Ray was no more perfect than you or I or anyone else. He was a man who told his story fearlessly.

We can be like him in that respect. That may be a good tribute to him.